11/09/08 Setaylah

and that she was making a mistake by not joining him. I too have experienced extreme indoctrination, and I am only 21. Lol!!! So I welcome offence, m8. People can't "offend" me, especially on things like religion, because that is their own view and opinion. LOL!!! I dont know whether or not you think that I am part of an extremist cult or whatever it is you think I do, but I can assure you that we do not try to force our views on anyone. If ppl ask, we tell. That is all. It is up to them to make there own decision. There are many ppl I know who I am also very good friends with who were once members of my church who have left, and I dont see them any differently whatsoever. They're my friends, God loves them, and so do I. :-) We will have to do the 3d thing sometime. Explanation will be better. :)

11/09/08 Setaylah

OK. I think it's time I truly told you where I stand on this. I am glad that you acknowledge that I am a nice, normal person, but don't hold back. You have made your point very clear. All I am trying to make you understand is that where I come from, there are some of the few who use religion sensibly, consider it a way of life, and not as an excuse for tyranny or evil. You have given me extensive material to look up, but I am afraid this is not going to be one sided. Lol!!! I am part of a denomination known as Seventh-Day Adventists, (look it up, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adven tist_Church), and we have a very different belief. Read up on us for yourself. I too have lost friends and loved ones to faith. I don't know whether or not you have heard of the Waco incident, but i lost a friend in there, another friend, who is now a member of my congregation, came back injured, and I nearly lost my mother to Waco when the guy who was running it tried to convince her that he was right...

11/09/08 Setaylah

hi i havnt been on dis thing 4 a while. I hav jus red again thru all da msgs u lft on my page b4 about me brainwashin kids jus bcuz u saw i was in a group called "Biblical Prophcy". As far as da brainwashin bizniz goes, we dnt do dat. We had a baptism @ our church yestaday, and those ppl made a very CONCIOUS decision to get baptised. As far as the faiths not making their mind on wetha God interacts wid us in our realm or nt, is not da basis of faith. it's only a small prt of it. It is very hard 2 xplain wot "prophecy" i b-leev ova imvu. We'd hav 2 b in 3d 2 do dat properly. My "religious hierachy" do care bout my dreams. In fact, they support dem. & I am making it very clear 2 u rite nw..."self-greed", dnt evn go there!!! Lol!!! Dat is NOT the 4ce or da passion dat drives us. I was raised in my faith frm birth. But dnt tink dat my point of view is blinkered bcuz of dat, bcuz I hav xperienced lyf in & out of da faith, & i decided dat lyf outside da faith wrn..

10/26/08 Guest_Imperialist

"i am one WITHOUT supernatural beliefs" And yet you are discussing your beliefs with me. Curious.

10/26/08 Guest_Imperialist

"Your not very good at this .. 5000 year tale? your never heard anyone "say that" (grammer, there's a saying "practice what you preach") its in your bible, these earth christans you talk about, that just shows how faith can be USED, "slander"?," ; First, "say that" is correct grammar. Second, do some research. No one claims the earth is 5,000 years. A small group of people claim 6,000 years. Third, I haven't once slandered you (in fact, that's technically impossible, since slander must be spoken-- in print it's called "libel"). I would note that false accusations are themselves slanderous, however.

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"My grammer? .. yea ok usa spell "colour" then go destroy the english language some more, its a msg im not writing a book, or maybe i should, i'll call it the "invisible flying spaghetti monster", oh snap that's all ready been done, popular genre this, been done many times before" I'm not asking you to have perfect grammar. I am asking you to demonstrate your vaunted capacity for "reason" by following a simple set of rules. "You want everyone to be a christian? that sounds boring everyone dressed the same, doing everything the same way, oh wait i forgot you would have slaves, they would be different i guess. That is the grand plan." There is a technical term for people whose arguments are so weak that they resort to slander and baseless accusations in a feeble attempt to validate their points. That term is "idiot."

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"Ok i'll measure again the speed of which the universe is expanding, because 5000 years since creation seems quite a bit off, religious ppl have to play the truth card to help drive faith, while i can say creation 10000000 years more or less, i'm not totally sure ... but its "definitely" (with proof) way more then 5000, so no truth in faith, so whats the point of religion? oppressive control." I've never claimed that the earth is 5,000 years old. Moreover, I've never even heard anyone claim that. If you bothered to do so background research, you'd know that Young Earth Creationists (a small minority of Christians) claim that the universe is 6,000 years old. All religions are not made equal. Young Earth Creationism is simply wrong; most Christians will tell you so. As for religion as a source of oppressive control: please give me one Christian theocracy in place today (i.e. one place where not being a Christian is a crime).

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"if your really brave you'll leave my comments up , at least prove that your religion gives you brave faith(and blind) in face of FACTS and doubt." You've cited no facts. "because we know you know we are right " Wow, real mature: "I'm right, because you know, that I know, that you know that I'm right." As for poor grammar as an evolution of language-- first, that's etymologically questionable (note that slang is distinct from simple carelessness). Second, your grammar wouldn't be problematic if you were actually communicating something. But you're not: you're just ranting (on an abandoned page, no less). How cowardly. ", then we will win , as its always been" Read your history. You seem to be operating under baseless messianic delusions.

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"Philosophy of man is the battleground ..... and while religions fight for power over ALL people ..... we the atheist (and look up the meaning of the word , we are NOT theological group, nice try but you people are scraping the bottom of the barrel) and whoever just wants freedom and justice ... see this ... and we will create the new Revolution, pZ Luv Reason" And you have what empirical proof? What atheist countries can you point do that are doing so well, exactly? The USSR? Oh right, they collapsed. China? Nasty famines and oppression. N. Korea? Don't get me started. At best, you can point to Scandinavia, but between shrinking economies, a demographic nightmare, and increasingly violent immigrant populations, they're hardly ideal. Plus, while they may have atheist majorities, they don't have atheist governments, nor they have atheist "revolutions." By the way-- atheism IS a theological position. It's a stance on the nature of God, which makes it theological by definiti..

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"its to cover that ALL people of FAITH that preach and covert too have a TOTALITARIAN world (under there particular faith), " How precisely am I brainwashed? I could just as easily say that you're brainwashed, because you feel the need to post on a webpage that has been abandoned for almost a month. "your the new "Hitler youth" , the world knows this , and once again the world will win , not race or faith or the intellectual but all free people , think of the last 500 years of wars" Yes. People of faith (such as Eisenhower) triumphed over Hitler, the agnostic. Stalin (another atheist) fared somewhat better, but his empire was broken by another man of faith (Reagan). And, for all it's talk of greatness, China (the most notable atheist power in the world today) can't even prevent famine in it's own Western border, nor can it stop the spread of Christianity among its people. 95% of the world population continue to express faith in God. Faith is not defeated, nor eve..

10/25/08 Guest_Imperialist

"NO "faith" has a argument anymore" First, sorry for the lateness of my reply (I'm starting my freshman year of college, and I don't have much time for IMVU anymore). Second: your assertion is baseless. You claim faith has no arguments, but then you follow-up with a bunch of assertions, strawman-arguments, and ad-hominem fallacies. "its to cover that ALL people of FAITH that preach and covert too have a TOTALITARIAN world (under there particular faith), " And yet N. Korea, Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Hoxhist Albania and Ceausceau's Romania were all zealously atheistic. Even Hitler claimed that religion and National Socialism are incompatible. The guiding philosophical underpinning in the 20th century was atheism, not religion.

09/30/08 Guest_liz9898

np yes that is my little one we should chat sometime if u have yahoo or msn we can chat there

09/10/08 Guest_verymisssexy

i wish we culd tlk but ma computer broke down :( nd u never message...nd ur really hot...LOL but im getting a new laptop ^_^ yay

09/06/08 Shannonleerose

yeah honey i know i understand you just take care of yourself ...i worry .... im always here if ya need someone ok...hugs

09/06/08 Shannonleerose

hope your doing ok? hugs

09/04/08 Guest_liz9898

hey ty for bein my friend yes the little girl is mine how r u was new i don't stay here but i have yahoo messager if u want to chat ty again for acceptin my invite

08/31/08 Guest_meemeemegan

no

08/31/08 Leicey

boo

08/29/08 Guest_RizzleRazzle

Don't worry about it mate, it was only a joke after all. I know you didn't mean it. : )

08/28/08 Shannonleerose

OH MY FRAN HAS AP NOW ;p

08/28/08 Setaylah

Well..., the 3d chat key is always there. :-)

08/27/08 Setaylah

OK.....waiting...waiting...wait... Rite. Hav u stoppd bein' judgemental now? Lol!!! Can I actually hav a conversation with you? U know, if I didn't hav such a good sense of humour, I could actually take offence to dat. Lol!!! 1ce u get talkin' I think u'll find I am actually human, not a robot being controlled by a system of ppl, or a controll-ER!!! Nw I only hav 1024 characters 2 use & 400 & odd+ of those hav gone already. Lol!!! So I will try & ansa as many of da questions you fired as I can. PHOOOOOOOOOO!!! Wo!!! Lol!!! G-Zam Pz!!! It's clear u hav vry strong opinions, but plz do not go by appearance alone. :-) U were rite about 2 things tho. Yes, I am a black female and yes, I am living in da UK, born+bred. & yes I hav read da bible, & yes I am a Xtian. And my views on the religious hierachy bizniz will hav2 b xplained in a 3d ch@ if I get th@ opportunity. Lol!!! Haha!!! I'll c u if I c u, m8. P.S. & btw, I dnt brainwash children. I work with kids maself and I find th@ kind of..

08/27/08 Guest_verymisssexy

im sooo bored when u dont tlk or leave meh a messege cuz ur soooooooo awsome nd hot O_o LOL...but i reallt wanna tlk sumtime bye byiez mr ur tha hottest guy ive ever met...LOL

08/27/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

God Bless, reminds me of a song. 'All you zombies' I dare you to listen to it May CHrist Jesus enter your soul heart and mind and free you

08/26/08 Guest_GOTHICCHIC15

ok im srry to hear tht u lost ur job

08/26/08 Setaylah

Lol!!! U may have to elabor8 on dat, m8. Lol

08/26/08 Setaylah

Hellawwwww. Saw ya dropped by ma page to say howdi-du. Thawt i'd return da fava. :-)

08/26/08 Randalllord 

Cool HP.

08/26/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

God Bless you, May the peace of Christ be upon your soul

08/26/08 MyrnaAdan 

It was the moon i referred to but Yeats can be beautiful as well

08/26/08 MyrnaAdan 

Beautiful

08/26/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

Ill let you relish arrogance, yes you win. I hope with all my heart you make it God Bless

08/25/08 Guest_GOTHICCHIC15

HEY DAN LONG TIME HAVENT HEARD FROM U OR SEEN U ONLINE ENYWAYS JUS STOPPING BY TO SAY HI!

08/24/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

Thank you i enjoyed your last poem. i certainly relate, as the deer pants for streams of living water so my soul pants for my God. God Bless you

08/24/08 Shannonleerose

A is for awesome.... very good honey veru informative...you should open a myspace i think you would become very popular...with what you are trying to say.... kiss hope your feeling ok honey thinking of you often.

08/24/08 julieannxx 

thnx for the visit...t-care nd hve fun..julieannxx

08/24/08 Guest_xxxbengiprincessxxx

hi am j3zzy hope we cod chat sum day^_^

08/24/08 ShiftingMist 

lol well im glad ur not too bummed about loosing ur job:P and im sure u will get something better;) things are quite my way lol well as quite as they can be just chilling atm with friends. Never asked where in aussie you are? Perth this way lol and u need a wl btw lol mwah

08/24/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

God Bless you, forever hearing but never listening forever seeing but never percieving. We can see if your spaceship is coming, ill wait for Christ you wait for spaceship. Each to their own i suppose

08/24/08 Guest_verymisssexy

^_^ well i kno its not fun...but hey they r plenty of other things ^_^ jus sayinz....nd btw ur soooooo hot.....AGAIN LOL O_o i wonder y im saying this to an 27 yr old...idk but ur like totally soooooo hot.... LOL :P well bye byiez

08/24/08 Guest_GoodGolfer

HI yes the evolution revolution has come to its climax in the nineties, however now it backslides for even the scientist's computer now knows their is intelligent design represented in creation, not a mere 'acident' is your eye ball, more advanced than any camera, yet when you see a camera you know it's designed. The one that is your eyeball is so advanced you just write it off as accident, it's that advanced its beyound your comprehension. But as bible says Man has no excuse to not believe in me, he just has to look at creation to see its design. That written 2000 years ago by the Apostle Paul from Rome. God Bless you

08/24/08 ShiftingMist 

hey:) noticed you stopped in so figured i would do the same:P hows your weekend been? hopefully you have had a good one and looking forward to catching you online sometime soon ~ShiftingMist~

08/23/08 Guest_meemeemegan

yo sup

08/22/08 Guest_verymisssexy

nd btw i luverz u O_o like a frnd luv...LOL but hey ur kewl nd remember dont b sooo down okiez try to messege meh back when u get this okiez buh byiez

08/22/08 Guest_verymisssexy

nd btw............................................ cant help but saying ur sooooooooooooooooooooo hot...LOL BUT BYIEZ...AGAIN lol

08/22/08 Guest_verymisssexy

nd plus dont b soo down okiez...cuz i mean cum on ur such a kewl person nd ull find sumthing else mayb better u never kno nd i dont want such a KEWL frnd to b soo down nd sad cuz im a bright positive person...^_^ so dont b down okiez well i gtg buh byiez

08/22/08 Guest_verymisssexy

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww tht sux well i kno one thing...u seem like a really gud person so i KNO u WILL find sumthing ^_^ nd yeaaaa im online ALOT O_o but hey i lLUV tha computer hehehe well i hope to ttyliez buh byiez ^_^

08/22/08 Shannonleerose

hugs to you sweetie...im here if you need to talk...message me if im not online ok...if im near computer i will be there ... hugs hugs hugs ...cuddles snuggles..everything will be ok honey..

08/21/08 Guest_verymisssexy

ay hottie wat up...well i want u to messege meh so i can know when ur on........unless ur not ma frnd anymore O_o but if u can messege meh when u get this nd i really wanna tlk but i cant stay up so l8 but i might b on okiez well ttyliez buh byiezzzzz ^_^ nd ur still hott ^_^ LOL buh byiezz

08/18/08 Guest_verymisssexy

nd hey guss wah................................................... ur sexy LOL seriously... but i wanna still b frnds nd i hope ill b on when u invite meh okiez well byezzzz sexy guy ^_^